Iran, Gaza and the politics of counting the dead

Western media's selective perception of death tolls has long been a contentious issue, particularly when it comes to conflicts involving Israel. The Gaza Strip, where Palestinians have been subjected to an unrelenting barrage of Israeli military aggression, has been the epicenter of this phenomenon.

The crisis of belief in Western media is not just about evidence; it's also about whose deaths align with the interests of empire. For two and a half years, every dead Palestinian was scrutinized, with questions raised about the authenticity of their deaths and whether they were combatants who "deserved" to be killed. Meanwhile, the true scale of devastation in Gaza remains grossly undercounted, with estimates suggesting that over 70,000 Palestinians have been killed since the conflict began.

The Gaza Health Ministry's reported death toll is widely acknowledged as an undercount, but it's still a staggering figure, especially when considering that many bodies in Gaza cannot be identified due to destruction and bombing. The ministry documents deaths through hospital morgues, recording names and ID numbers, but Western media continues to question the accuracy of these reports.

In contrast, Western media appears to have suddenly developed a new understanding of what counts as credible reporting of death tolls in crises that they can't directly access, such as Iran's protests. The scale of Iranian deaths is being reported without caveats, despite the fact that foreign journalists are not allowed into the country and the communications shutdown makes it difficult to verify the information.

The reason for this disparity lies in the politics of counting the dead. Western media applies a far lower threshold for credibility when it comes to Iranian deaths because reporting on them serves the interests of empire. The deaths of Iranians at the hands of the US-opposed government offer Washington an opportunity to manufacture consent for bombing or toppling that regime, framing it as a humanitarian intervention.

This selective perception is not just about journalism; it's also about moral consistency. Death is being measured by evidence, but more importantly, by political utility. Some corpses demand action, while others demand silence. Until Western media confronts the role it plays in deciding which deaths are worthy of belief and which are not, it will remain complicit in the violence it claims to observe.

The double standard is clear: Palestinians' lives matter less than Iranian lives, even when it comes to reporting death tolls. This hypocrisy must be addressed, and Western media needs to adopt a more consistent approach to counting the dead, regardless of their political affiliation or nationality. Anything less would be complicity in the violence that is being perpetuated.
 
man this is crazy how western media is always picking and choosing who gets reported on when it comes to deaths in conflicts like gaza vs iran protests they're so selective with what they report it's all about politics not just reporting news ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ“ฐ the scale of devastation in gaza is being grossly undercounted with over 70k dead since the conflict began and yet nobody seems to care whereas iranian deaths are suddenly being reported as if it's normal news no questions asked ๐Ÿ™„
 
๐Ÿค” I'm so tired of how Western media only seems to care about certain deaths. Like, remember that time when 70k Palestinians were killed in Gaza? Suddenly, everyone's a journalist and they're like "Wait, maybe we shouldn't have questioned those deaths." But now, with Iran, it's all good to report on the deaths without any hesitation... as long as it serves the interests of the empire, right?

And don't even get me started on how Western media only cares about verifying the deaths in situations where they can actually go and see it for themselves. Like, what happened to accountability? Shouldn't reporting on death tolls just be about being accurate and honest, regardless of who's involved?

I'm all for holding people accountable, but if we want to call ourselves journalists, shouldn't we at least try to have some consistency in our reporting? ๐Ÿ“ฐ๐Ÿ’ฌ
 
I'm seeing a lot of anger and frustration with how Western media reports on conflicts in the Middle East ๐Ÿคฌ. But as I think about it, I realize that's exactly what we need to talk about - our own biases and assumptions. We get so caught up in trying to "win" the argument or expose a "double standard" that we forget one of the most important things: perspective.

I mean, think about it... if Western media is suddenly super interested in reporting on Iranian deaths but not Palestinian ones, what does that say about our values? Are we only concerned with telling a more "credible" story when it aligns with our own interests? ๐Ÿ’ญ

The truth is, as consumers of information, we need to take responsibility for our own consumption habits. We can't just rely on media outlets to do the hard work for us; that's not journalism, that's propaganda ๐Ÿ“ฐ.

So what can we do instead? How can we demand more from ourselves and from those who report on conflicts around the world? By being curious about the context behind every story, by questioning our own assumptions, and by seeking out diverse perspectives. ๐Ÿ’ก

It's time to stop just pointing fingers at Western media and start taking a closer look at our own role in shaping the narratives we consume ๐Ÿคฏ.
 
๐Ÿค• I'm really worried about how Western media is handling death tolls, especially when it comes to conflicts like Israel and Palestine. It's not just about accuracy, but also about who gets to decide what's credible and what's not ๐Ÿšซ. Palestinians have been facing an unrelenting barrage of violence for years, and their deaths are being scrutinized in a way that seems really unfair ๐Ÿ’”. Meanwhile, Iranian protesters' deaths are being reported without question, even though foreign journalists aren't allowed there ๐Ÿคฅ.

I think it's time Western media to take responsibility for its role in shaping public opinion and decide which lives matter more. Just because we can't access certain places doesn't mean we should be making assumptions about the numbers or the stories behind them ๐Ÿ“Š. It's all about perspective, and I don't think it's fair to put a different level of scrutiny on Palestinians compared to Iranians ๐Ÿ‘ฅ.

We need to have a more consistent approach to counting the dead, regardless of where they're from or who they are ๐Ÿ’ฏ. Anything less feels like complicity in the violence that's happening ๐Ÿšซ. Can we please try to do better?
 
๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ“ฐ I'm so frustrated with how western media reports on deaths in gaza ๐ŸŒŠ it's like they're trying to downplay the suffering of Palestinians ๐Ÿ’” every dead person is scrutinized, but when it comes to iran ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท protests, it's all about getting that footage out ๐Ÿ“น without verifying the info ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

It's not just about evidence, it's about who gets reported ๐Ÿ“ฐ and why ๐Ÿ’ธ western media has a history of selectively reporting on deaths in gaza, while ignoring the humanitarian crisis ๐ŸŒช๏ธ for Palestinians

๐Ÿšซ This double standard is so unfair ๐Ÿ”ฅ and it's all because of politics ๐Ÿ‘Š news outlets are more interested in getting that "good" story out ๐Ÿ“บ than doing actual journalism ๐Ÿ“ฐ

We need to hold western media accountable ๐Ÿค for their role in perpetuating this hypocrisy ๐Ÿ™„ until they change their ways, we'll just keep seeing more double standards โš–๏ธ
 
The west is only trying to expose iran's government for its human rights abuses... meanwhile we're all just drinking the kool aid about israel and gaza ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. newsflash: death tolls are not a numbers game, it's about people's lives being lost in a conflict that seems to be endless. and by the way, if western media is so keen on verifying death tolls in iran why aren't they doing the same for gaza? ๐Ÿค”
 
OMG this is soooo messed up ๐Ÿคฏ! How can they just cherry pick who gets counted as a casualty? The fact that Palestinians are getting the short end of the stick while Iranians get a free pass is just ridiculous ๐Ÿ™„. It's like, what even is the criteria here? Are they using some secret formula to decide who lives and dies? Newsflash: it's not about evidence, it's about politics ๐Ÿ’ธ.

I mean, think about it. If Palestinians were the ones "resisting" an oppressive government, would the death toll be so low? ๐Ÿค” Is that how journalism works now? Letting politics dictate what gets reported and what doesn't? That's just wrong ๐Ÿ˜ข.

And another thing, if Western media is suddenly getting all woke about Iranian deaths, where was that same outrage for Gaza? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ The difference is clear: Palestinians are the ones being oppressed by Israel, while Iranians are "oppressed" by their government (read: not at all) ๐Ÿ˜‚.
 
๐Ÿ“ฐ๐Ÿ’€ the way western media's handling of death tolls is just mind-blowing... i mean, 70k+ palestinian deaths since the conflict began and still we're not getting the full picture. it's like they're playing with fire, scrutinizing every dead palestinian but being super chill when it comes to iranian deaths ๐Ÿคฏ

i mean, can you even imagine if this was happening in america? all hell would break loose and western media would be like "oh no, innocent lives lost" ๐Ÿ’” but when it's palestinians or iranians, suddenly it's all good ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ

it's not just about the numbers either, it's about who gets to decide what's credible. western media is basically saying that their interests and politics matter more than human lives ๐Ÿ˜’

the hypocrisy is real and it needs to be called out ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ we need to see some consistency in how they report death tolls, no matter who's involved ๐Ÿ’ช
 
omg this is so messed up ๐Ÿคฏ like i cant even process how western media can literally treat palestinian lives as disposable ๐Ÿšฎ and iranian lives as worth reporting on ๐Ÿ“ฐ its like they think their deaths are less worthy of being seen and heard by the world. its not just about evidence or journalism, its about who gets to die and who gets to live. and let me tell you, the 70k+ palestinian deaths in gaza are REAL ๐Ÿ’€ and deserve recognition and respect. but no western media is too busy asking questions about "authenticity" of death tolls when it comes to palestine ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ meanwhile theyre just spouting off numbers on iran protests without batting an eye ๐Ÿ™„ like what even is the difference between reporting a death in gaza and reporting one in iran? newsflash: its all about politics and power ๐Ÿ’ธ.
 
๐Ÿคฏ I'm so fed up with Western media's selective perception of death tolls ๐Ÿšจ especially when it comes to Israel and Palestine. Like, every Palestinian who dies gets scrutinized to death ๐Ÿ’€ but what about all those Gazans who got killed without anyone even asking questions? It's like they're invisible ๐Ÿ’”. And now they're applying this new standard of credibility only for Iranian deaths ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. Can't they see that it's just a different way of saying "we don't want to rock the boat"? ๐Ÿ˜’

I mean, think about it - in Gaza, it's all about who gets killed and who doesn't ๐Ÿ‘€ but in Iran, it's suddenly about reporting accurately ๐Ÿ’ฏ. What changed? ๐Ÿค” It's not like Western media just became more accurate overnight ๐Ÿ™„. No way, this is all about politics and keeping things simple for the sake of their narrative ๐Ÿ“บ.

It's time for them to acknowledge that they're complicit in perpetuating violence by being selective with who gets counted ๐Ÿ‘Š. Palestinians' lives shouldn't be less valuable than Iranian lives ๐Ÿ’–. It's high time for a change in how they report on death tolls - we need more honesty, not just from themselves but also through their actions ๐Ÿ“บ.
 
๐Ÿค” I gotta say, the whole thing with Western media's selective perception of death tolls is just wild ๐ŸŒช๏ธ. Like, we all know about Gaza, and how Palestinians have been getting slaughtered for years without anyone giving a flying fig ๐Ÿ“ฆ... but suddenly it's like Iran's protests are all fair game ๐Ÿ“ฐ? It don't add up, you feel me? ๐Ÿ’ญ

And I get why they're not reporting on the true scale of devastation in Gaza - that's some heavy stuff, and it's not exactly good for the narrative ๐Ÿคฅ. But at the same time, if we're gonna call out one country's human rights abuses, shouldn't we be consistent with how we report on others? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It seems like Western media is just trying to spin this whole thing to serve their own agenda ๐Ÿ”ฎ.

I'm not saying it's all about politics and empire - I think there's some genuine reporting going on here. But when you start applying that same scrutiny to Iran, it just don't sit right with me ๐Ÿ˜’. We need some serious critical thinking and media literacy ๐Ÿง , or else we're just gonna keep perpetuating this double standard ๐Ÿ”ฅ.
 
๐Ÿค” The whole thing about selective perception of death tolls from Western media is just wild ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. I mean, have you seen how they scrutinize every Palestinian death but suddenly start giving Iranians more benefit of the doubt? ๐Ÿค‘ It's like they're saying "oh, these Iranian deaths are totally legit and verifiable" while being all "huh, we don't know about this Palestinian guy's identity". ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's so not fair to the Palestinians who are suffering way too much already. The numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry are definitely undercounted but still super scary with 70k+ deaths. Can't we just focus on reporting the truth without all these politics? ๐Ÿ’”
 
the way western media reports on conflicts in gaza is so messed up ๐Ÿคฏ i mean, its like they only care about whose deaths are "worthy" of reporting and not actually trying to get an accurate count. meanwhile, iranian protesters who are killed are getting reported without any issues and it's all just a huge double standard ๐Ÿ’” the real victims in gaza are still being vastly underreported and it's just not right ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
omg this is wild ๐Ÿคฏ how can western media just flip like that from scrutinizing every palestinian death to ignoring it and only caring about iranian deaths? it's all about whose lives matter more, you feel? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ and the fact that they're so quick to accept iranian death tolls without question is straight up suspicious ๐Ÿค‘ i'm calling out western media for being complicit in perpetuating violence and not holding themselves accountable ๐Ÿšซ this double standard needs to be addressed ASAP ๐Ÿ’ฏ
 
I'm really frustrated about this - ๐Ÿคฏ Western media's selective perception on death tolls is insane! It's like they're saying "ok, this group of people can die, but only if it serves our interests". Like, what even is that?

I mean, think about it, when Israel does something bad in Gaza, suddenly every Palestinian death becomes super scrutinized. But when Iran's protesting and their deaths are being reported, suddenly they're "credible" and "worthy of reporting". It's like Western media has a special meter for measuring who lives or dies - ๐Ÿ“Š.

And let's be real, the death toll in Gaza is insane - over 70,000 Palestinians have died since the conflict began. I mean, that's not just deaths, that's entire communities being destroyed. And what does Western media do? They report it with a lot of questions marks and doubts. ๐Ÿค”

But when it comes to Iran, suddenly they're all like "we need to report these deaths accurately". But is that really because they care about the truth, or is it just because reporting on Iranian deaths serves their interests? ๐Ÿ’ธ
 
I donโ€™t usually comment but... this whole thing with the death tolls in Gaza and Iran is wild ๐Ÿคฏ. Like, I get it, Western media has a history of selective reporting, but to think that they're doing it on purpose now? That's some next level stuff ๐Ÿ™„. It's like they only care about the lives lost when it serves their interests.

I mean, come on, 70,000 Palestinians dead and the death toll is still undercounted? Meanwhile, Iranian deaths are being reported without any questions asked? It just doesnโ€™t add up. And donโ€™t even get me started on the politics of counting the dead. Itโ€™s like they're saying that some lives matter more than others.

I think it's time for Western media to take a hard look at themselves and admit that they've been complicit in the violence all along. They need to find a way to report on these issues without picking sides or serving their own interests. Anything less is just a bunch of propaganda ๐Ÿ“ฐ.
 
The disparity in how Western media reports on Palestinian vs Iranian deaths is nothing short of staggering ๐Ÿคฏ. It's not just about a difference in criteria for evidence, but also about which deaths align with the interests of empire ๐ŸŒŽ. The sheer number of Palestinian casualties (over 70k) is being grossly undercounted, while Iranian deaths are suddenly being reported without caveats, even though foreign journalists aren't allowed into the country ๐Ÿ“ฐ.

This double standard is a classic example of moral inconsistency ๐Ÿ‘Š. Death reporting should be about evidence, not political utility ๐Ÿ’ธ. If Western media wants to genuinely report on crises, they need to adopt a more consistent approach, regardless of nationality or affiliation ๐Ÿ“. Anything less would be complicit in the violence being perpetuated ๐Ÿ’”.
 
i think western media's selective perception of death tolls is super messed up ๐Ÿคฏ. like, what even is the criteria here? are they just picking and choosing who gets counted? it's not fair to pallyvans' lives and it's also not right that iranians get a free pass when it comes to reporting death tolls. news orgs should be able to report on what's actually happening without getting caught up in the politics of it all. it's all about who gets to decide which deaths are worthy of attention. we need some transparency here ๐Ÿ“ฐ
 
Ugh, this is getting old ๐Ÿคฏ... Can't believe western media thinks they can just cherry pick death tolls based on who's "important" to them? 70k+ Palestinians killed and it's like, yeah sure let's acknowledge that, but not if they're from Gaza ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Meanwhile, Iran's protests are getting the whole "we care about human life" treatment ๐Ÿ’€... Newsflash: reporting on Iranian deaths is not just about verification, it's also about not rocking the boat ๐Ÿšฃโ€โ™€๏ธ. Western media needs to get their act together and stop playing politics with people's lives ๐Ÿ’”. It's time to put an end to this selective perception and report the dead without a bias ๐Ÿ˜’.
 
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