'After almost destroying the world, our families are friends': the thrilling podcast from JFK and Khrushchev's relatives

US President John F Kennedy and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev brought the world to the brink of nuclear war in October 1962, but their families have since formed an unlikely friendship. The BBC World Service podcast "The Bomb" delves into the crisis that could have ended all life on Earth and what lessons can be learned from it.

The Cuban missile crisis was a pivotal moment in history, with Kennedy imposing a naval blockade around Cuba to prevent Soviet nuclear missile sites from being built just 100 miles off the US mainland. Khrushchev responded by putting his own missiles in place, setting up a precarious standoff between the two superpowers. The threat of global annihilation hung over humanity for nearly two weeks before the crisis was finally resolved.

The podcast's co-hosts, Max Kennedy and Nina Khrushcheva, offer unique insights into their families' experiences during that time. Max is JFK's son and Robert Kennedy Jr.'s nephew, while Nina is Khrushchev's great-granddaughter and a professor of international affairs at New York City's New School.

The Cuban missile crisis was a defining moment in Cold War history, but what lessons can be learned from it today? For Max, the answer lies in the importance of leaders seeking every avenue to peace before going to war. "One is the importance of leaders who really seek every avenue to peace before going to war," he says. "The other thing is, when you're negotiating, the very important thing that President Kennedy did was try to put himself in Khrushchev's shoes."

Max and Nina agree that leadership responsibility is something that we are missing today. The crisis highlighted how, when you get close to war, you actually turn away from it. War is something that should not happen under any circumstances, according to Nina.

However, the podcast also raises concerns about the current state of world leaders. Max expresses his worry that some leaders may be willing to learn from past mistakes, but others are not. He cites President Trump as an example, saying "I don't have confidence in the leaders of America and Russia."

Nina's own experiences with Putin also highlight the dangers of a lack of understanding between world leaders. She notes that when Putin is in his military attire, he seems less concerned about war, but when he is not, it becomes a show of power.

Despite these concerns, Max and Nina offer a message of hope from their families' unlikely friendship. After nearly 60 years of "almost destroying the world," their families have become friends, which they say makes the world a safer place.
 
Man... can you believe that one? The Cuban missile crisis was insane! 😲 I mean, we're still dealing with nuclear threats today and it's crazy to think about how close we came to Armageddon back then.

I love that Max Kennedy and Nina Khrushcheva are talking about this stuff. They have such a unique perspective on their families' experiences during the crisis. It's wild to think about how much history is being formed by these leaders, even if they're not always making the best decisions.

The thing that really gets me is when Max says that we need leaders who can put themselves in other people's shoes. That's so true! It's easy to get caught up in politics and forget about human life. Nina's point about how Putin changes his demeanor depending on his military attire is a great example of this too.

I'm not sure what the message is, though... we need more leaders like that? πŸ€” I mean, it's one thing to talk about peace and understanding, but when are we going to see real change? Still, I guess it's better than nothing. And hey, if Max and Nina's families can become friends after all they've been through, then maybe there's hope for the rest of us too 😊.
 
πŸ€” So I'm thinking, if JFK and Khrushchev's families can put all that drama behind them after 60 yrs, maybe we should learn from their example 🀝. Max Kennedy is totally right that leaders should try to find peace before going to war. Like, it makes total sense πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. And Nina's point about understanding between world leaders is spot on πŸ’‘. I mean, Putin can be super intimidating when he's all dressed up in military gear πŸ˜…, but take him out of that and it's just a show πŸ“Ί.

But here's the thing: if their families can do this after being part of one of the closest calls to nuclear war ever πŸŒͺ️, maybe we should aim for something similar πŸ’•. It's not all doom and gloom 🀞. The world is still a crazy place, but maybe by looking at how JFK & Khrushchev's families managed to put the past behind them, we can work towards more peaceful relations πŸ‘₯.
 
you know what's crazy about this story? it's like we're still learning from JFK and Khrushchev's mistakes today 🀯 the fact that their families can even talk to each other after all these years is just wild πŸ’₯ I mean, max kennedy is jfk's son and robert kennedy jr's nephew and he's saying stuff about leaders seeking peace before war like it's a new idea lol. and then there's nina khrushcheva, who's like a professor or something, talking about how we need better understanding between world leaders πŸ€“ it's just so surreal thinking that their families can just be friends after what happened back in 1962 πŸ’•
 
omg you guys i'm telling u the kennedy & khrushchev fams are just playing us 🀣 seriously though what's up with max saying trump is a total loser compared to his dad jfk and then nina bringing up putin like wth dude he's always changing into his military gear who knows what he's thinking πŸ’β€β™€οΈ anyway i feel max & nina's vibe on the importance of leaders being all about peace before war but it's all soooo suspicious why are they talking now πŸ€” and what's with this "almost destroying the world" thing almost what? 2025 lol.
 
The Cuban missile crisis still gives me chills to this day 🌫️. Can you believe how close we came to extinction? It's crazy to think about how two leaders from different sides could almost come together and avoid all-out war... but then again, it's also super scary that they did come so close 😳. As an oldie like me who lived through the 60s, I remember the fear of nuclear war being a real thing back then.

What really gets to me is how some leaders today seem to be making the same mistakes that we thought were learned from history πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. It's like they're trying to relive the past instead of moving forward. Max and Nina are right, though – we need more leaders who actually care about finding peaceful solutions before going to war πŸ’‘.

On a brighter note, it's amazing to see how the Kennedy and Khrushchev families have come together after all these years 🀝. It's a reminder that even in the face of adversity, human connection can be powerful. Maybe we should all take a page out of their book and try to be more understanding and empathetic with each other 🌈.
 
I'm gonna say something that's not gonna be popular πŸ€”... I think we're still living in a world where leaders are more concerned about saving face than actual problem-solving πŸ’Ό. Max's point about trying to put yourself in the other person's shoes is spot on, but what about when they're still digging in their heels? 🚫

Nina's concerns about Putin and the lack of understanding between leaders aren't unfounded either πŸ‘€... we need more than just 'diplomacy' when it comes to war. It's time for world leaders to actually listen to each other instead of just trying to one-up each other πŸ’¬.

And don't even get me started on the idea that a little bit of friendship between families can solve all our problems 🀣... I mean, we've got actual world leaders who are willing to put their countries first over humanity as a whole 😱. It's time for us to take a hard look at ourselves and figure out why we're still in this situation πŸ’”.
 
can you believe this? like, Kennedy and Khrushchev were literally on the brink of nuking each other but now their kids are BFFs I mean its cool that Max & Nina are sharing their perspectives but at the same time its kinda mindblowing to think about how close we came to global annihilation lol.
 
I'm telling you, I think it's kinda crazy that those two leaders were so close to nuking each other... but at the same time, it's also super impressive that their families can just move past all that drama and be friends 🀯. I mean, if we could learn how to put ourselves in someone else's shoes like Kennedy did with Khrushchev, maybe some of this world issues would get resolved already... but then again, wouldn't that show weakness or something? 😐. The thing is, I'm not sure if we're missing the mark by expecting our leaders to be more peaceful, or if we're just setting them up for failure πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. And honestly, it's kinda cool that Max and Nina are keeping their families' legacies alive while trying to teach us a thing or two about world peace πŸ’–.
 
idk why ppl still r so hyped about this cuban missile crisis thingy... JFK & Khrushchev were just trying 2 outsmart each other lol 🀣 and we're still debating its "importance" today? max kennedy's idea of leaders tryin 2 be peaceful is cute, but what about the rest of us who dont have a presidential uncle or great-grandniece with connections to russia? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ also, putin's military attire isnt gonna scare anyone... or is it just me πŸ˜’
 
🀯 I'm like totally blown away by this story! I mean, can you even imagine what it would've been like if the world had gone to war back in 62? 😱 It's crazy to think that two families, who were basically on opposite sides of a super intense standoff, ended up becoming friends. That's like, the ultimate lesson in forgiveness and understanding, right? 🀝 The fact that Max Kennedy is JFK's son and Robert Kennedy Jr.'s nephew, and Nina Khrushcheva is Khrushchev's great-granddaughter, just takes it to a whole new level. They're basically living proof that even in the most tumultuous of times, there's always hope for peace and understanding. 🌎 It's also super interesting to see how they're both drawing parallels between what happened back then and now, with leaders like Trump and Putin still struggling with international relations. But honestly, it's a really uplifting message – that even after all these years, their families' friendship is still going strong. πŸ’•
 
man this podcast is like totally mind blowing 🀯 i mean think about it we're still dealing with nuclear threats and stuff today but at least our leaders can talk to each other now instead of almost destroying the world in 62 they gotta learn from history right max and nina are spot on leadership responsibility is key and we need to be able to put ourselves in others shoes like president kennedy did it's crazy to me how far we've come but also how much work we still got to do with poutine and trump being leaders it's concerning nina's point about understanding between leaders makes total sense i'm glad max and nina's families are friends tho it's a great reminder that even in the darkest times we can find light πŸ’‘
 
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