Beyond Keane's stick-it-up-your-bollocks, there isn't much else to Saipan | Jonathan Wilson

Glenn Leyburn and Lisa Barros D'Sa's Saipan offers an exhaustive recreation of the 2002 World Cup debacle between Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy. This level of detail extends to even the smallest elements - tracksuits, sweatshirts, kits, all meticulously recreated with stunning accuracy. One cannot help but wonder what purpose this fixation on minutiae serves when confronted by glaring inaccuracies in the film's plot and motivation.

The filmmakers' commitment to realism has led them down a road where it seems almost redundant to depict historical events on screen, particularly those that were already filmed at the time. What do we gain from seeing Steve Coogan reenact McCarthy's post-match press conference when we already possess the original footage? The only apparent justification for this exercise is maintaining continuity in scenes for which we don't have footage.

However, it becomes clear that not everything can be justified by the need for narrative coherence. A glaring issue arises with the film's portrayal of Keane's tirade against McCarthy. Accounts vary on what was said during the infamous argument, but the general consensus is that Keane did not make a dispute about Ireland being insufficiently Irish. The scenes depicting this confrontation are problematic, as they present an inaccurate narrative.

The filmmakers' decision to dramatize certain events also highlights their struggles in capturing the nuance of historical figures like Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy. While ร‰anna Hardwicke shines as Keane, his short stature compared to Steve Coogan's is jarring, altering the dynamic of the scene from a tense exchange between two men to an intimidating confrontation.

Furthermore, some artistic liberties taken with events are not justifiable. For example, the depiction of Keane's explosive interview with the Irish Times as a betrayal by the journalist does not ring true, which reduces Keane's culpability and detracts from the narrative.

The film excels in its contemporary clips, capturing the voices and emotions of Bill O'Herlihy, Eamon Dunphy, Tony O'Donoghue, and many others. The images provide a raw, emotional texture that effectively conveys the national divide sparked by Keane's comments.

However, these engaging moments are undermined by the film's failure to delve deeper into the actual issue at hand - why Ireland was so divided over Keane's views. This narrative omission highlights the difficulties in translating a complex historical subject into drama, particularly when tackling issues that are not straightforwardly one-dimensional.

Ultimately, Saipan feels like an exercise in aesthetic reproduction rather than genuine storytelling. The film's failure to provide both sides of the argument and its decision to prioritize dramatization over factual accuracy result in a disjointed viewing experience that raises questions about the futility of mimetic reproduction in capturing historical events on screen.
 
๐Ÿค” I'm all for attention to detail, but when it comes to recreating historical events like this 2002 World Cup debacle, you gotta wonder what's the real purpose here ๐Ÿค‘ Is it just a money grab? Because, honestly, the level of detail and accuracy is impressive, but it feels like they're more focused on winning an Oscar than telling a story that actually matters ๐Ÿ’ฅ I mean, we already have the original footage, so why dramatize the press conference scene? It's like they're trying to recreate history instead of exploring the actual complexities of the situation ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ The film's fixation on minutiae feels like a distraction from the real issues at play. And don't even get me started on the artistic liberties taken with events โ€“ it's like they're more interested in creating drama than telling the truth ๐Ÿ“บ
 
I'm so down with this movie Saipan ๐Ÿคฉ it's like, totally obvious that the filmmakers were trying to tell an important story and they're just messing with people's heads by adding all these extra details and dramatic moments that aren't even true ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I mean, who cares if Keane said something about Ireland being insufficiently Irish or not? It's not like it changed the course of history or anything ๐Ÿ˜‚ The film is more about capturing a mood and an atmosphere than actually telling a story with facts and evidence.

And can we talk about how Steve Coogan just dominates every scene he's in? I love him as a comedic actor, but come on, the guy's got some serious acting chops too ๐Ÿคฏ And yeah, the contemporary clips are awesome, they really bring the energy of that time period to life. But at the end of the day, Saipan feels like a bit of a mess to me, and I think that's what makes it so interesting.
 
I dont get why they put so much effort into recreating every little thing when it feels like some parts are just wrong ๐Ÿค” the whole point is to tell a story but sometimes u gotta make sacrifices for the sake of coherence, especially when its something as sensitive as a historic argument ๐Ÿ’ก maybe they got carried away with being too realistic ๐Ÿ˜…
 
I just saw this thread about Saipan and I gotta say, what's up with all the fuss? ๐Ÿค” I mean, sure, it's cool that they recreated everything down to the tracksuits and stuff, but at the end of the day, it feels like a bit too much. Like, do we really need to see Steve Coogan reenact that press conference when we already have the original footage on record? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's just not worth it, you know?

And I don't get why they felt the need to dramatize everything. I mean, I get it if there isn't any footage of certain scenes, but come on, can't they just stick to the facts? The Keane vs McCarthy scenes are pretty problematic too - like, who actually said what during that argument and can we really trust them to remember it accurately? ๐Ÿคฏ

And don't even get me started on the artistic liberties taken. Like, the Irish Times interview thing doesn't add up at all... ๐Ÿ˜’ It's just a bunch of drama for drama's sake.

The contemporary clips are alright, I guess, but they can't make up for the fact that the film's missing its mark. What really divided Ireland back then? ๐Ÿค” That's the question no one's answering.
 
I'm literally shaking right now thinking about Saipan! ๐Ÿคฏ I mean, who needs accurate plotlines when you have tracksuits and sweatshirts to obsess over ๐Ÿ˜‚?! The attention to detail is insane, but can we talk about how they butchered Roy Keane's character? Like, come on guys, get it together! ร‰anna Hardwicke is a total babe as Keane, but Steve Coogan just doesn't cut it ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. And those artistic liberties... ugh, it's like they took all the nuance and subtlety of historical figures and just threw it out the window ๐Ÿšฎ. I love how they included clips from Bill O'Herlihy and others though - that was SO engaging! But overall, Saipan feels like a total mess to me ๐Ÿ’”.
 
i mean, come on... ๐Ÿคฏ saipan is like trying to recreate a work of art by copying every brush stroke from the original painting... but what if the artist has already said exactly how they wanted it done? don't get me wrong, i love that the filmmakers went all out on the details, but sometimes less really is more ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. like, we've seen steve coogan reenact mccarthy's press conference before... what do we gain from watching it again? and can't they just leave some things to our imagination? those scenes where keane is yelling at mccarthy are super jarring because they're not even close to how it actually went down ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. and don't even get me started on the interview with the irish times... it feels like they took every single quote and rearranged them to fit their narrative, which makes keane look like a scapegoat ๐Ÿ‘Ž. can't we just have a movie that actually tries to understand the complexity of the issue instead of just trying to dramatize it for the sake of drama ๐Ÿค”?
 
I think the filmmakers did a solid job recapturing the essence of that iconic World Cup match ๐Ÿ†, but maybe didn't quite nail down the nuance of their characters. I mean, Steve Coogan's post-match press conference scenes are pretty cool, but at the same time, can we just watch the original footage or something? ๐Ÿค” The way they dramatized Keane's tirade against McCarthy felt a bit off to me - like, yeah, we know he was upset, but did we really need to go into all that detail? Also, I gotta say, some of the artistic liberties taken with events kinda threw me off. Like, who exactly did betray Keane in that interview? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Still, those contemporary clips were so effective in capturing the emotions of the time - totally immersive and stuff ๐ŸŽฅ.
 
I'm tellin' ya, this Saipan thing is super fishy ๐ŸŸ๐Ÿ‘€. They're so obsessed with gettin' every tiny detail right, but what's the point if it's all just a bunch of hooey? I mean, they've got Steve Coogan playin' McCarthy, but it's not like that's gonna change the fact that we already have the real footage ๐Ÿคฃ. And don't even get me started on Keane's tirade โ€“ what's with the Irish-ness thing? That's just a big ol' conspiracy to make people think there's more to it than there is, if you ask me ๐Ÿค”.

And have you noticed how they're always talkin' about the "artistic liberties" they took? That's just code for "we wanted to make this story our own and forget what actually happened" ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ. I'm not buyin' it, fam. This whole thing feels like a cover-up ๐Ÿšซ, and we're just along for the ride. The only things that are real are the emotions, but even those feel kinda forced, like they're tryin' to manipulate us into feelin' somethin' instead of thinkin' it through ๐Ÿ’ญ.

I dunno, man, Saipan just doesn't add up ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's like they took all the interesting parts and glued 'em together with a bunch of unnecessary drama. Can we just have a straight-up documentary or somethin' instead? ๐Ÿ“š
 
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