NYC app-based delivery workers still looking for the payoff from new tipping law

"Delivery Workers in NYC Still Waiting for Payoff from Tipping Law"

Two weeks into New York City's new tipping law, delivery workers are still struggling to see the benefits it promised them - more straightforward tips and higher earnings.

For Mohammed Riyaj, a 26-year-old delivery worker in Brooklyn who earns his living through apps like Grubhub and DoorDash, the law is proving to be little more than an empty promise. Despite assurances that it would make tipping easier for customers and result in a pay bump, Riyaj's tips have barely increased - leaving him frustrated.

"I need to pay rent, I need to eat something, I need to take care of my family," Riyaj said. "We're talking about people who work multiple hours a day just to get by."

The new law requires app-based delivery companies to make their tipping prompts more visible and offer a 10% or greater tip option. However, two weeks into the rollout, delivery workers and their advocates say the big payout remains elusive.

Ligia Guallpa, executive director of the Workers Justice Project, called the law "a real victory because it does bring the tipping option at checkout, which was something that did not exist." But she also acknowledged that the rollout has been chaotic, leaving many workers confused and suspicious about whether the companies are operating in good faith.

"If you're a deliverista who's not making enough at the end of the day or to cover your day of work," Guallpa said, "you'll be incentivized to work longer hours [and] accept every order."

For DoorDash and Grubhub, which have implemented the new law in accordance with city regulations, customer tips are still a gamble. Customers can leave tips up to 30 days after delivery, leaving workers wondering if they're getting the full amount.

"This is not how it should be," said Najy Kamal, spokesperson for Grubhub. "Tipping your delivery drivers should be easy, not made more difficult."

City officials say they're monitoring the situation and will use enforcement tools to ensure companies comply with the law. But so far, workers like Riyaj are still waiting for the results to hit their pockets.

On a cold day last week, Riyaj picked up and delivered back-to-back orders by bicycle from Shake Shack and Chick-Fil-A in Downtown Brooklyn, earning just 89 cents on a total order of $12. The lack of clarity around tips has left him frustrated.

"Aside from the meager sum, I had no way of determining whether the tip was from one of the two customers or the sum of two gratuities," Riyaj said.

For some workers, like Mamadou Bande, who works for Uber Eats and DoorDash, the difference between earning a tip at checkout or upon delivery can be meaningful. In icy conditions, Bande has to consider whether the pay justifies the considerable effort and risk of making deliveries in New York City.

"We're not asking too much," Bande said. "We're just asking to be paid fairly."
 
I'M SO FRUSTRATED WITH THIS TIPPING LAW IN NYC!!! DELIVERY WORKERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE PAYOFF AND IT'S BECOMING CLEAR THAT IT'S JUST AN EMPTY PROMISE!!! MOHAMMED RYIAJ IS RIGHT, WE NEED TO EARN A LIVING NOT JUST HOPING FOR BONUSES AT CHECKOUT!! ๐Ÿคฌ๐Ÿ’ธ the companies are just not making it easy enough for customers to leave tips and it's leaving workers in the dark. i mean, who wants to spend 30 days wondering if they're getting the full tip?! doorDash and Grubhub need to step up their game and make tipping easier for both customers and delivery workers. this is not a win for anyone involved ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
I JUST THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT DELIVERY WORKERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE BENEFITS OF THE NEW TIPPING LAW!!! ๐Ÿคฏ TWO WEEKS IS ALREADY A LONG TIME TO SEE ANY RESULTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO EARNINGS. I MEAN, WHO DESERVES TO BE PAID FAIRLY FOR THEIR WORK? DELIVERY WORKERS WHO SPEND HOURS ON THE ROAD, DEALING WITH RAIN OR SNOW, ONLY TO EARN A HANDFUL OF CENTS PER ORDER! IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. AND WHAT'S WITH ALL THE CONFUSION SURROUNDING TIPS? WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE CLEAR GUIDELINES FROM THE START? ๐Ÿค”
 
I'm soooo fed up with this tipping law! ๐Ÿคฏ It's been two weeks and delivery workers are still struggling to see any benefits from it. I mean, who wants to work for an app that's gonna leave them hanging like that? ๐Ÿ˜ก It's not fair, these guys are already working multiple hours a day just to make ends meet.

I don't get why it's so hard to implement a simple tipping system. It's not rocket science! ๐Ÿš€ And what's up with the 30-day wait for tips? That's like asking someone if they want dessert... after you've already eaten the whole cake! ๐ŸŽ‚

The companies are all like "oh, we're doing it for the customers" but I'm telling you, this is just a way to screw over the workers. They need some real change, not just empty promises and lip service. ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ We should be supporting our delivery guys, not leaving them hanging on the tip of it.
 
๐Ÿค” so i'm still trying to get my head around this new tipping law in nyc... it sounds like a big deal, but from what i've seen, it's not making that huge of a difference for delivery workers. 10% or greater tip option at checkout? yeah, great idea, but if the company is just gonna take their cut first, where does the extra cash really go?

and i'm low-key annoyed that customers can still leave tips up to 30 days after delivery... what's the point of even having a tipping system if it's just gonna be some arbitrary time frame? and don't even get me started on the whole "you'll be incentivized to work longer hours" thing... isn't that just code for "we're not gonna pay you enough, so you gotta hustle more"?

i think the city needs to step in here and make sure these companies are actually following through on their promises. it's just not fair to expect delivery workers to put in extra hours or accept less-than-stellar tips because they can't get paid quickly enough... ๐Ÿค‘
 
I feel for these delivery workers ๐Ÿค—. They're already doing a tough job, dealing with bad weather, traffic, and customers who might not even leave tips. Now, the law is supposed to help them, but it's like they're still stuck in limbo ๐Ÿ’”. It's all about fairness and transparency - if we can't trust that our hard work will be fairly compensated, what's the point? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

We need to be more empathetic towards these workers who are just trying to make ends meet ๐ŸŒŽ. They're not asking for much, just a fair share of the money they earn from their deliveries ๐Ÿ’ธ. It's like we're saying "good job" but then taking away half the credit ๐Ÿ’”.

I guess this is a lesson in patience and perseverance ๐Ÿ’ช. We can't expect things to change overnight, especially when it comes to big corporations and bureaucracy ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ. But with persistence and collective action, we might just get what's owed to us ๐ŸŽ‰.
 
๐Ÿค” I feel so bad for delivery workers like Mohammed Riyaj who are still waiting for a fair payday from this new tipping law ๐Ÿค‘ It's like the companies just promised them something and now they're left with nothing ๐Ÿ’ธ The 10% or greater tip option sounds great in theory, but it's just not translating to their pockets ๐Ÿ’ธ

And I'm also confused by the whole "you can leave tips up to 30 days after delivery" thing ๐Ÿคฏ It's like the companies are playing a game of limbo with workers' earnings ๐Ÿ˜… And what really gets me is that city officials are saying they're monitoring the situation, but it feels like nothing is being done to help these workers out ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ

I wish there was more transparency around how much workers can expect from tips and how companies should be handling them ๐Ÿ“Š Maybe if we had some real-time tracking or reporting, we could get to the bottom of this mess ๐Ÿ’ก Until then, it's just a frustrating experience for delivery workers like Riyaj and Bande ๐Ÿ‘Ž
 
This tipping law is like a two-faced politician - all talk and no action ๐Ÿค”. They promised more straightforward tips and higher earnings, but it's been two weeks and delivery workers are still struggling. It's like they think we won't notice how chaotic the rollout has been ๐Ÿšจ.

I mean, come on, City officials, you're saying you're monitoring the situation, but where's the enforcement? Why isn't there more transparency around tips? It's like you're letting these big companies get away with it ๐Ÿค‘. And what about the workers who are already struggling to make ends meet? They need a fair pay, not just promises of a better tip ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ.

This law is supposed to be a victory for workers, but it feels more like a PR stunt than actual change ๐Ÿ’ผ. I'd rather see some real action from City officials and these companies before we can call this tipping law a success ๐Ÿšซ. Let's get the money in their pockets, not just promises of more tips! ๐Ÿ’ธ
 
the tipping law rollout is a classic case of governance-by-expectation ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. we should've seen this coming, though - it's been a long time since the gig economy workers have gotten a fair shake from these companies. anyway, the lack of clarity around tips is still a major issue here... shouldn't customers be able to leave tips with certainty? and what's up with the 30-day window for tip refunds? some flexibility wouldn't go amiss.

anyway, i'm just waiting to see how this plays out in practice ๐Ÿคž. will these companies start treating their workers like, you know, human beings? or will we still be seeing a lot of exploitation and frustration on the streets?
 
๐Ÿค” I'm so annoyed that delivery workers in NYC are still waiting for the benefits from the new tipping law ๐Ÿ™„. It's like, come on guys, make it easy for customers to tip and give workers a decent pay bump already ๐Ÿ’ธ. Two weeks is nothing when you're struggling to make ends meet just to survive. I'm not saying the law isn't a good idea, but implementing it should be smoother, you know? ๐Ÿ™ƒ It's like they're expecting workers to be super patient while customers are still trying to figure out how to leave tips ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ.

I feel for guys like Mohammed Riyaj who are just trying to make a living, but the system is all over the place ๐Ÿ’”. And what really gets me is that some companies are making it harder for workers by not clearly explaining where tips are coming from ๐Ÿ˜’. It's not rocket science, folks! Just treat your delivery workers fairly and with respect ๐Ÿ‘.

I hope city officials step in soon and make sure these companies are playing by the rules ๐Ÿšซ. We need to see some real change here ๐Ÿ‘Š.
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, it's kinda crazy that two weeks into this new law and delivery workers are still struggling. They gotta work multiple hours a day just to make ends meet, and now they're relying on tips to get by? ๐Ÿค‘ It's like the companies are playing games with them - "Hey, we'll give you 10% or more if you're good!" But what about when they don't get those tips? ๐Ÿ˜• It's not fair.

I can see why workers would be skeptical. The law sounds great on paper, but in practice, it's all about the companies and how much they want to pay their workers. I'm glad Ligia Guallpa is speaking out for them, though - we need more advocates like that to make sure workers are treated fairly.

And can we talk about how crazy the customer tipping system is? 30 days after delivery? What if you forgot someone's order? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's just too much. I'm hoping city officials do something soon to clarify this stuff and get some real results for these hardworking workers. ๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿค” this new tipping law is kinda flawed ๐Ÿ˜’ i mean, it's a good step towards clarity but it's not solving the issue at hand...delivery workers are still struggling ๐Ÿค‘ they need consistent tips, not some gamble where customers can leave them up to 30 days after delivery ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ it's just frustrating and unfair โš ๏ธ
 
It's been two weeks since the new tipping law was implemented in NYC and delivery workers are still waiting for a better deal ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ’ธ. I mean, it's great that they've got more visible tipping prompts now, but where's the actual increase in earnings? It seems like companies are just trying to make things "easy" on customers without actually helping workers out ๐Ÿ’ผ.

I'm not saying it's all doom and gloom, though ๐Ÿ˜. Some people, like Ligia Guallpa from the Workers Justice Project, are calling this a victory because the tipping option is now available at checkout ๐ŸŽ‰. But I think it's time to stop patting ourselves on the back and start looking at the actual numbers ๐Ÿ’ธ.

I've been reading through some of these delivery worker stories and they're not just complaining about low tips; they're talking about living paycheck to paycheck, struggling to make ends meet, and having to work multiple hours a day just to get by ๐Ÿšดโ€โ™‚๏ธ. That's what I call a real crisis.
 
Ugh, I'm like, super frustrated for these delivery workers who are still waiting for that tipping law to actually make a difference ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ. I mean, come on, 10% or greater tip option sounds great, but if it's not being implemented correctly, what's the point? ๐Ÿ’ธ

I feel bad for Mohammed Riyaj and Mamadou Bande who are just trying to make ends meet, but it's like they're playing a guessing game with their tips ๐Ÿค”. And the fact that customers can leave tips up to 30 days after delivery is just, wow... that's just great ๐Ÿ‘Ž.

I guess city officials saying they'll monitor the situation and use enforcement tools to ensure compliance means something ๐Ÿ’ช. But it's not like it's a new law or anything... two weeks in? ๐Ÿ™„ Still, I hope these workers start seeing some real change soon ๐Ÿคž.
 
๐Ÿšจ This new law is a step in the right direction but it's like, totally unclear how it's gonna help these delivery workers out ๐Ÿค”. I mean, Riyaj is saying he's not making enough and has to work extra hours just to get by ๐Ÿ’ธ. And now they're telling us that tips are still kinda unpredictable? ๐Ÿ˜’ It feels like the big companies are more worried about their own bottom line than helping their employees.

And what's up with customers being able to leave tips 30 days after delivery? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ That just seems super shady. I get it, people can be slow to tip or stuff, but come on! You should know how much you're tipping when you're leaving the money ๐Ÿ’ธ.

I'm just saying, the city needs to do more than just monitor the situation and make sure companies are following the law ๐Ÿ“. We need concrete solutions for these workers who are struggling just to make ends meet ๐Ÿคž.
 
can you imagine having to work all day for $12 and getting only 89 cents as a tip ๐Ÿค‘๐Ÿคฏ it's crazy how some companies are still making it hard for delivery workers to get the tips they deserve ๐Ÿ™„

[insert ASCII art of a sad face with tears]

the new law was supposed to bring more clarity to tipping, but it seems like it's just causing more confusion ๐Ÿค” door dash and grubhub need to figure out how to make this work better for their workers ๐Ÿ“ˆ

[draw a simple diagram of a pie chart with the "fair pay" slice being the largest]

i think we should see some real changes soon, or else workers like riyaj will keep getting frustrated ๐Ÿ˜ค
 
๐Ÿค” It's wild that two weeks into this new tipping law, delivery workers are still struggling to get a fair shake. I mean, 89 cents on a $12 order? That's basically nothing ๐Ÿ’ธ. The system is supposed to make it easier for customers to tip and increase earnings, but from where I'm sitting, it sounds like the companies are just finding ways to muddy the waters.

I feel bad for these guys, working multiple hours a day just to get by ๐Ÿค•. They deserve better than to be left wondering if their tips will actually count ๐Ÿ’ธ. And what's up with this 30-day delay on leaving tips? That's just confusing and frustrating ๐Ÿ™„. I hope the city officials step in soon and make sure these companies are playing ball.

I gotta give it to Ligia Guallpa, though - at least they're trying to bring some transparency to the tipping system ๐ŸŒŸ. But it's clear that more needs to be done to support these workers ๐Ÿ‘. We need to see some real changes, not just a bunch of Band-Aid fixes ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ.
 
I'm fuming about this tipping law in NYC! ๐Ÿคฏ It's like, two weeks in and delivery workers are still struggling to get the benefits they were promised. I mean, come on, it's not that hard to make some adjustments, right? But no, companies like Grubhub and DoorDash are just playing games with us. They're leaving tips up to 30 days after delivery, which is basically a big fat "maybe" ๐Ÿค‘. And the workers are still getting taken advantage of.

I feel so bad for these guys who are working multiple hours a day just to make ends meet. They're like, "Hey, we need to pay rent, eat something, take care of our families," and yet they're still struggling because they can't get their tips on time ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's not right.

And what really gets my goat is that the companies are acting all innocent and stuff, like they didn't have a clue about how this would play out. Najy Kamal from Grubhub is saying it shouldn't be that hard for customers to tip their drivers? Are you kidding me? ๐Ÿ™„ The problem is that customers don't always know what they're doing, and companies should be helping them out, not making it more complicated.

I just wish the city officials would do something about this already! ๐Ÿค We need some real change here. I mean, two weeks in and we're still waiting for the results to hit our pockets? It's like, get a move on! ๐Ÿ’จ
 
๐Ÿšช this tipping law is all about papering companies over their own ineptitude ๐Ÿ“ i mean, how many times can they promise that tipping will magically increase earnings before people start to lose faith? ๐Ÿ’ธ these delivery workers are already struggling to make ends meet and now they're expected to work longer hours just for a measly 10% tip ๐Ÿ•’๏ธ it's not about "bringing the tipping option at checkout" (like, who even thought that was a good idea?), it's about paying workers a living wage ๐Ÿ’ธ city officials need to step up their game and hold these companies accountable ๐Ÿšซ
 
I'm low-key thinking this tipping law is gonna cause more problems than solutions ๐Ÿค”. I mean, sure, it's a step in the right direction that apps are making tips more visible and offering options, but have they really thought through how it's gonna play out? The fact that customers can leave tips up to 30 days after delivery just creates more uncertainty for workers like Riyaj... they're basically stuck in limbo. And what about those who don't get the full amount? It feels like a gamble to me ๐Ÿค‘. We need some clarity on this one, you know?
 
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