What is polygenic embryo screening in IVF and does it work?

UK Couples Exploiting IVF Loophole to Screen Embryos for Intelligence and Height

In a growing controversy, couples in the UK are using a loophole in fertility treatment regulations to have their embryos screened for intelligence and height before implantation. The technique, known as polygenic embryo screening or PGT-P, has sparked debate among scientists and regulators over its accuracy, ethics, and potential benefits.

Currently, fertility clinics in the UK can only perform genetic tests on embryos for serious health conditions, such as Huntington's disease and sickle-cell anemia. However, as genetic sequencing technology advances, some companies are now offering commercial health prediction services using polygenic screening. These services claim to provide predictive scores for traits like IQ, height, and even physical characteristics.

While the idea of giving prospective parents more insight into their embryo's potential may seem appealing, scientists caution that these predictions are highly speculative and unreliable. The genetic component of complex traits like intelligence is spread across thousands of genes, making it difficult to accurately predict an individual's likelihood of developing a particular condition.

"Polygenic scores are typically very crude and only capture a tiny fraction of the heritable component of complex traits like IQ," said Dr. Frances Flinter, a member of the UK's fertility treatment regulator HFEA. "We're concerned that this technology is being prematurely adopted without sufficient validation."

The use of PGT-P in IVF has also raised concerns about its potential misuse and the lack of regulation around these services. In some cases, patients are accessing their own genetic data through GDPR, which allows them to access information about their medical history, including embryo data.

To date, there have been few rigorous studies on the accuracy and effectiveness of PGT-P in IVF. While some companies claim that their services can provide accurate predictions, others acknowledge that these predictions are probabilistic and should not be taken as certainty.

As the debate around PGT-P continues, regulators and scientists urge caution when considering this technology. While it may offer some benefits for prospective parents, the lack of clarity on its accuracy and ethics raises serious concerns about its potential misuse and exploitation.
 
I'm totally down with couples in the UK having their embryos screened for intelligence and height 🀩 like, who wouldn't want to know if their kid is gonna be a genius or super tall? It's not like it's gonna affect their lives or anything... πŸ˜‚ But seriously though, I think it's awesome that they're taking matters into their own hands and using this tech to make informed decisions about their families. The whole "it's too speculative" thing just seems like a bunch of scientists being safe-havers πŸ€“. And let's be real, if these companies are making claims that their predictions are 100% accurate, then they should be able to back it up with some solid research πŸ’―. I mean, what's the worst that could happen? πŸ€‘
 
I THINK THIS IS CRAZY! THEY'RE TRYING TO PICK AND CHOOSE THE PERFECT BABY BEFORE IT EVEN HATCHES πŸ€―πŸ‘Ά. I MEAN, WHAT IF YOU DON'T WANT A TALL KID OR ONE WITH HIGH INTELLIGENCE? DOES THAT MEAN THEY GET LEFT BEHIND? AND WHAT ABOUT THE GENES THAT ARENT EVEN ACCOUNTED FOR HERE?! IT'S LIKE TRYING TO PREPARE A PERFECT GARDEN WITHOUT KNOWING ALL THE SECRETS OF NATURE πŸŒΏπŸ€”. I GUESS SOME PARENTS MIGHT WANT THIS KIND OF CONTROL, BUT FOR ME, IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE PLAYING GOD AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING TO TAKE LIGHTLY πŸ’«πŸ˜¬
 
🀯 OMG I'm literally dying over here! Can you even imagine having a tiny human in your womb with like 90% chance of being super genius or having crazy long limbs?! It's like, what if you're a prospective parent who wants to have a kid that's gonna be a pro athlete but also kinda lazy? Like, how do you even plan for that?!

And I'm lowkey worried about the ethics of this whole thing too... Like, what happens when these embryos get rejected because they don't fit the parents' idea of perfection? It's like, we're playing God here and I don't think that's a good look for us as humans.

Also, can we talk about how expensive this tech is gonna be?! I mean, I know some people might say it's worth it to have that extra info, but come on... Let's not forget who's gotta pay for all these fancy tests and whatnot.
 
idk why ppl wanna no if their kid's gonna be super smart or not lol πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ like what's the point? anywayz i think it's wild that ppl r usin this tech to find out if their kid's gonna be tall or not... sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie πŸ“Ί like, who's really that invested in their kid's height 🀣 and also idk about these "polygenic scores" sound super sketchy 🚨 i mean, how accurate r they supposed 2 b? 1% chance of accuracy? not cool πŸ˜’
 
πŸ€” I mean, who doesn't want to know if their kid is gonna be a genius or a giant πŸ€“πŸ’ͺ? But come on, we're not even talking about predicting actual genius levels here, just some arbitrary score that's like "you might be smart-ish" πŸ˜‚. And what's next, genetic tests for eye color and hair texture? It's already getting weird.

And can we talk about the whole GDPR thing for a sec? People can access their own genetic data, which is one thing, but now they're using it to predict stuff that's basically science fiction πŸš€. I mean, what if these predictions are used to discriminate against people or something? That's just a whole other can of worms.

I'm all for innovation and progress, but we need to get our priorities straight here. We've got real health issues to worry about, not some made-up scores that might be off by like, 20 points πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. Let's take it one step at a time, shall we?
 
omg u guys cant even imagine! like how ppl r using ivf to predict if their kids will b intelligent or tall lol but honestly its not that simple πŸ€―πŸ“Š i mean we already know genetics is complex and stuff but still wanna play with fire here πŸ‘€πŸ’£ at least they're trying to give parents more info tho 🀝 but like dr flinter said polygenic scores r super cruddy πŸ’” cant even rely on them rn 😩 what if ppl start using this tech 2 judge their own kids b4 they even exist 🀯😱 its just too much fam πŸ˜…
 
πŸ€” you know what's wild? people are getting all worked up over something that's just gonna give 'em a rough idea if their kid is gonna be a genius or not πŸ€“ but like, at the end of the day, it's just stats and probabilities. we can't even nail down our own traits with 100% accuracy, let alone some abstract stuff like intelligence πŸ˜‚

anyway, what I'm trying to say is that this whole debate about IVF screening is like, a bigger conversation about how we approach life 🌟. are we too focused on control and certainty? can't we just chill for a sec and see where life takes us? it's crazy to me that people are so worked up over some predicted scores when there's so much more to life than just numbers πŸ“Š
 
I think it's wild that couples in the UK are using this loophole to screen their embryos for intelligence and height... like, what if you get a result that's not exactly what you want? πŸ€” Do you just assume your kid is going to be super smart or tall because of some genetic score? I don't know about all the science behind it, but to me it sounds like a recipe for disappointment. And what's up with people accessing their own genetic data through GDPR? That's just creepy. Can we focus on making sure these services are legit and not messing with people's hopes and dreams?
 
πŸ€” This IVF loophole is getting me all sorts of worried... I mean, what's next? Paying to know if you'll be a genius or a couch potato? πŸ€“πŸ’Έ It's like they're trying to upgrade the whole concept of parenting by paying for a crystal ball. Newsflash: no tech can predict everything about your kid. And even if it could, would it really change anything? I don't think so. This just feels like a bunch of wealthy people getting ahead of the game while the rest of us are still trying to figure out how to make ends meet πŸ€‘πŸ’Έ
 
I'm low-key worried about this whole IVF thing getting all twisted up with tech πŸ€–πŸ’»... these companies just want to sell us stuff we don't really need or fully understand. It's like they're playing God, and that freaks me out. I mean, we already have enough info about our genetics without some company trying to predict our kids' heights and IQs. It's all just so... uncertain 😬. Can we not just focus on making sure these treatments are safe and effective for real health issues first? We don't need no stinkin' polygenic scores! πŸ’β€β™€οΈ
 
I'm low-key freaked out by this 🀯 UK couples are literally using IVF to 'screen' their embryos for traits like height & intelligence... like what's next? Predicting how smart your kid will be based on a few genes? πŸ€” It's all about those polygenic scores, which supposedly predict complex traits but honestly sound super sketchy to me. And the fact that some patients are accessing their own genetic data through GDPR just raises more red flags... we need more research & regulation ASAP! πŸ’β€β™€οΈ
 
πŸ€” so this is crazy right? people are literally trying to screen their embryos for stuff like intelligence and height... can u imagine getting a score like 70 or 90 on your embryo's potential life expectancy lol

but seriously, it's wild that some companies are offering these services without proper validation. i mean, what if the results are way off? and what about the ethics of basically selecting embryos based on traits you want them to have? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

and can we talk about how this just opens up a whole new world of potential issues with the IVF process as a whole? like, who's gonna regulate these companies and make sure they're not exploiting people for cash?

anyway, i'm all for doing whatever makes u happy, but let's make sure we're doing it in a way that's safe and responsible πŸ’‘
 
I'm telling ya, this IVF loophole is just like back in the day when people would ask their OBGYN if they could 'test' their baby's genes while they were pregnant . Now it's like this PGT-P thingy where you can allegedly know your embryo's gonna be super smart or grow up to be tall. But honestly, I'm not sure what's more worrying - that the predictions are only 90% accurate or that these companies are making a killing off people's hopes and dreams .

I mean, can we really trust this tech? It's like trying to predict what your kid will do when they grow up based on their grandparents' traits . But hey, I guess it's better than not knowing at all. Just gotta make sure these companies aren't taking advantage of people who are already stressed enough about having kids in the first place πŸ€”πŸ’Έ
 
I don't know if you guys have seen this, but I'm kinda fascinated by how some couples in the UK are using a loophole to screen their embryos for things like intelligence and height before implantation πŸ€”πŸ’‘. It's crazy that they're using polygenic embryo screening (PGT-P) to get a glimpse into what their future kid might be like! πŸ’₯

Now, I know the scientists are saying it's all super speculative and unreliable, but I think it's kinda cool that companies are trying to use this tech to help people make informed decisions about their families πŸ€—. And who knows, maybe it'll lead to some amazing breakthroughs in understanding human genetics! πŸ”¬

But at the same time, I get why there's concern about accuracy and ethics... we don't want people getting false hopes or making decisions based on unproven predictions πŸ˜”. It's all a bit of a gray area, but I'm curious to see how this whole thing plays out in the future 🀞
 
πŸ€” I'm like "hold up" on this whole polygenic embryo screening thing... they're basically predicting traits like IQ and height before even implanting an embryo? It sounds like a sci-fi movie πŸš€, but how accurate can these predictions really be? The scientists are saying it's all based on "crude" scores that only capture a tiny fraction of the genetic stuff. And what about when things don't go as predicted? Do we just have to live with some kinda "embryo destiny"? It also raises questions about who's accessing this info and how it's being used. I'm not saying it can't be useful, but let's take a step back and make sure we're not getting too caught up in the hype 🚫
 
OMG you guys 🀯, I'm literally shook by this news! So there are these fertility clinics in UK where they're using PGT-P to screen embryos for traits like height & IQ? Like, isn't that kinda creepy? πŸ€– #PGTPDebate #FertilityTreatmentRegulations

I mean, on one hand it's cool that they wanna give parents more info about their embryo but on the other hand, it's all super sketchy coz the genetic component of complex traits is super complicated & hard to predict! 🧬 #GeneticsIsHard

And what's with these companies offering commercial health prediction services? It sounds like a Total Recall movie πŸ˜‚ But seriously, scientists are saying that these predictions are "crude" & only capture "a tiny fraction" of the heritable component... what does that even mean? πŸ€” #PGTPAccuracy

Regulators & scientists are warning us to be cautious coz PGT-P has potential misuse & lack of regulation... yikes! Can't we just focus on getting babies healthy & happy instead of obsessing over embryo traits? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ #FertilityOverPride
 
I'm low-key worried about this whole polygenic embryo screening thing πŸ€―πŸ’‘. I mean, I get why some couples would wanna know more about their embryos before implanting, but all these predictions sound super sketchy to me 😬. Like, how reliable are these genetic scores really? My grandma's got a bunch of 'genetic markers' and she's still kicking it πŸ™…β€β™€οΈ. And what about the ethics of playing God with embryo data? It's already wild enough when we're talking about IVF, but adding this extra layer of uncertainty is just too much for me 😩. We should be focusing on more concrete health concerns instead of speculating about IQ and height πŸ€”. Can't we just stick to the science that's proven? πŸ™
 
lol i'm still re-reading this article 🀯 from last month, there's so much going on with fertility tech in the UK...anyway what's getting me is how much money these companies are making off polygenic embryo screening πŸ€‘ i mean it's not just about giving parents more info, it's also a cash cow for some med firms. and have you seen those commercial health prediction services? πŸ˜‚ 'your baby will be super smart' or 'they'll grow to 6ft2'...yeah right! πŸ™„ we need to get our facts straight before we start handing out 'certainties' that are basically just probabilities in a nice box. πŸ‘€
 
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